What is Mercedes' F1 KERS layout?

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12/07/2016 at 01:33 • Filed to: None

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Have a CLK GTR for your time (yeah, not a huge F1 fan).

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Doing some research, not finding anything clear (and yes, it’s late and I’m tired).

Anyone have a handy link that shows the layout of the current Mercedes F1 KERS system?

Specifically, trying to locate where they put the electric motor. I think it doubles as the starter motor, but haven’t found anything super clear I can cite.

Yes, I need a cite-able source, preferably something Mercedes published themselves, but anything from a reputable site would work.


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12/07/2016 at 01:41

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All I can help you with is a video I posted on here not too long ago. You can find it on my profile not too far down. It’s not mercedes specific but it helped me understand the basic layout between the batteries, mgu h, mgu k, turbo and engine.


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12/07/2016 at 01:47

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I wish you luck on your quest — I don’t know for sure, but what you are trying to look for could be top secret information. Tomas says you can go discover the basic layout, and I am afraid that’s as far as you’ll be able to get.

I don’t watch F1 either.


Kinja'd!!! BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > BLCKSTRM
12/07/2016 at 01:54

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All I know is that Mercedes’ MGU-H(the one connected to the Turbocharger) is quite different from the other teams. What they’ve allegedly done is split the turbine and compressor housing of the turbo apart, and put the MGU-H generator on the shaft connecting them. However that’s just something I heard/read a while ago, sadly I don’t remember a source, so it could be wrong.


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12/07/2016 at 02:29

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It’s unicorn tits in the front hooked up yeti balls which then attaches to the cam shaft. U can site me for that.


Kinja'd!!! iSureWilll > BLCKSTRM
12/07/2016 at 09:23

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Not sure if this is for Mercedes or what but...

Looks like the KERS unit is this big circle on the front of the engine.

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Looks like the MGU is the motor and it is attached to the crankshaft via a splined shaft that slides into the front of the engine. More info here from 2011.

https://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/category/2011-rules/

Here is some info from the 2014 that uses heat from the turbo to create electricity.

http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2013/07/2014-formula-one-exhaust-energy.html

If you notice, this one has an MGU-K on the front of the engine and an MGU-H on the turbo.

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Kinja'd!!! BLCKSTRM > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
12/07/2016 at 23:40

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This is one of those things that the deeper I dig, despite the details eluding me, I’m becoming comfortable that I have enough detail for the task at hand.

The main question was where a KERS-like system has the electric motors, particularly as it pertains to the rumored Mercedes hypercar that’s supposed to lift the F1 powerplant wholesale.

There are EVs out there with the motors in the wheels, at the axles, in the diff, tranny, motor, or completely disconnected as a generator. I was just trying to figure out the general location.

It seems increasingly evident that all the F1 KERS systems are solidly in the engine camp despite some (natural) proximity to the transmission.